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    Thank you very much for that, Rich.

    Very nice sound ! I've never used ribbons before, but I think I'll probably go ahead and invest in that mic, based on your recording (and some others I've heard recently).

    I've been recording mostly with DPAs (4011s in ORTF with 4006 outriggers), which are beautiful on almost everything, but with a little too much high-end edge for choirs. I like how the SF-12 smooths the sibilance, and seems to sound 'less digital.'

    Any chance you remember how high the ceilings were in that church ?

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    Ceiling height doesn't matter as long as it isn't low-- although with Blumlein you can "aim" the rear lobes to minimize any effects. In the top pic you can see that the front is aimed at the singers from a height of 12ft. The rear is looking at the rear gallery.

    With any ribbon you want as high an input impedance as possible for best LF performance. TRP has greater than 30kOhm for instance. Don't despair tho-- my Prism has 5,5kOhm and sounds quite good with the SF12. You also want QUIET as you will need 50-60dB of gain for a typical choral ensemble producing peaks of -10dBFS.

    If you use your 4006 as flankers for a touch more transient response and to keep extreme edges in phase you would like the trapezoidal grills more than the normal silver ones. Much smoother top-- I keep them on my 4003 all the time now.

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    Rich,

    Are we hearing any EQ on the SF12 in that clip you posted?
    Lynn Fuston
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    Only what mp3 does--

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    The extra openness must be the $1,000/foot power cords that Lynn had them install on the new server.
    John Whitmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Whitmer View Post
    The extra openness must be the $1,000/foot power cords that Lynn had them install on the new server.
    Yea, I can hear a difference. ;-)
    Lynn Fuston
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    Thanks for all the good info, Rich.

    Definitely going to try out a TRP with the SR-12. All preamps I have now are 3k ohm (input impedance) or less.


    Any idea how the TRP compares with the Grace m101 ?
    Last edited by ticker; 12-16-2009 at 01:13 AM.

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    As a follow-up the CD is now available: www.msrcd.com/1315/1315.htm

    Rich
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