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  1. #21
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    I like gospel, but that's not the point.

    Jackson Burks
    Cauldron Audio
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    Sorry if I seem a bit testy, but there is so much engineering minutia that we just love to scrutinize and dwell on that is completely immaterial in this matter.

    Dither? No way. It's not under review.
    Noise shaping? That's out as well.
    Converters? Don't enter into it.
    Plugins? Sorry, can't use them.
    Maximizers? Not allowed.
    Word Clocks? Insignificant here.
    Panning Laws? Not a factor the way the test is designed.
    Better mixing? Not an issue at all.
    Louder? If it is, then it's wrong.
    Recorded to? Doesn't matter.
    Recorded with? Doesn't matter either.

    This is a mathematical exercise and the resulting soundfiles will either be right in terms of level and panning, or they will be useless. There's no gray. It's just black and white.

    If you null the ref mix with your mix and you hear snare, then it's wrong. Hear some bass guitar? It's wrong. There's no margin for error according to this test.
    Lynn Fuston
    3D Audio

    Making beautiful music SEEM easy since 1979.

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    I can offer up either PT Mix+++ 5.1.3
    or - Logic 5.5 running Native in OSX or running with ESB/TDM in os 9 (this would probably be similar to a PT test). I can even offer up a SAW Studio rig for the 200 or so people in the world that have that program.

    let me know if i can be of any help.

    clint bennett

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    Originally posted by 3D Audio Inc.:
    <STRONG>

    If it handles 24/48 files in .wav format, then bring it on.</STRONG>
    By the way... this will be a help to any who get the CD. I did a very similar 'test' a few years ago, transferring a 16 track project and then summing them using all available native apps available then (98), as well as PT and Paris.

    It was illuminating and enabled me to confidently decide which DAW and native app to go with.

    Don

    [ February 14, 2003: Message edited by: dmorrell ]

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    Originally posted by Richard:
    <STRONG>I'd be fascinated and willing to do something with samplitude Lynn!

    Richard</STRONG>
    Yes, we definitely need a Samplitude mix in the group. There are MANY who think that Samplitude sounds better than most of the other apps. This would be a great test to see if it is noticeable. I know I did my own listening tests, and immediately purchased Samplitude.

    TZ

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    Originally posted by dmorrell:
    [QB]

    By the way... this will be a help to any who get the CD. I did a very similar 'test' a few years ago, transferring a 16 track project and then summing them using all available native apps available then (98), as well as PT and Paris.

    It was illuminating and enabled me to confidently decide which DAW and native app to go with.

    Don
    What a tease.

    Don't give it away, but I'd love to hear what you discovered. After we finish beating up all these others, you'll have to enlighten us.
    Lynn Fuston
    3D Audio

    Making beautiful music SEEM easy since 1979.

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    Perhaps you've got it covered already, but I'll be happy to volunteer DP 3.11.

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    Originally posted by Michael Hoddy:
    <STRONG>Perhaps you've got it covered already, but I'll be happy to volunteer DP 3.11.</STRONG>
    I think you're the first for that one. Welcome.
    Lynn Fuston
    3D Audio

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    Lynn,
    I'm not sure if you want or need it....But I have a Yamaha AW4416(kinda 02rish) up and working.
    Jim Rivers
    Kat P Studios

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    Originally posted by Rivers:
    <STRONG>Lynn,
    I'm not sure if you want or need it....But I have a Yamaha AW4416(kinda 02rish) up and working.</STRONG>
    You need to be able to import .wav files and export the same. Other than that, the ability to calibrate levels within .1 dB is also required. So if you have that capability, I don't see why not.
    Lynn Fuston
    3D Audio

    Making beautiful music SEEM easy since 1979.

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